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We learned everything, you know, across from accounting to auditing to, to tax and valuation. I ended up in what was called the valuation services group, where we valued real estate and businesses either for transactions or for m and a activity. 00:27:56 [Speaker Changed] So let’s talk a little bit about riskmanagement.
And risk is not about not losing money. Riskmanagement is not about not losing money. Riskmanagement is about unexpectedly losing money. But riskmanagement is always about understanding what could go wrong and quantifying what could go wrong. Worst case downside. Exactly right.
If you’re all interested in macro investing, trend following, commodities, currencies, fixed income, various types of quantitative strategies, and most important of all, riskmanagement, you’re going to find this conversation to be absolutely fascinating. With no further ado, my interview of GCM’s Ken Tropin.
In the short run, there can be distortions in public market valuations as we saw in 2001 and we saw prior to that in 2007, and prior to that in 2000, in ‘99. Valuations go up and you saw it, of course, in the late ‘90s, in the tech sector. But you’re looking at valuations and what sort of multiples you want to pay.
It’s always interesting to speak to a fund manager in the midst of one of the craziest macro periods of the markets that we’ve seen and God knows how long, who doesn’t factor in macro events or the overall market because they’re market neutral and hedged. What do you do in terms of riskmanagement?
BERRUGA: We think it’s a great solution for clients that are looking for two things, either income or like a riskmanagement tool to play the volatile environment that we have seen in the markets. I think I mentioned earlier, I have like a four-and-a-half-year-old that keeps me really entertain. Why covered calls?
What’s the valuation? Last question on ESG, certain folks have been saying, “Hey, you know, it works as a pretty good riskmanagement filter. How do you respond to this is a riskmanagement filter that allows us to identify the worst actors in corporate America? It’s just entertainment.
We just get to focus on assets and asset riskmanagement. So earlier we were talking about assets, and then you referenced riskmanagement. RITHOLTZ: Tell us a little bit about the difference between managingrisk and merely owning assets. What’s been keeping you entertained? SALISBURY: Yes.
DAVIS: A big part of it is really around when there’s more complicated corporate actions that are happening that entail a level of risk. There’s conversations that happen with our riskmanagement department to make sure we’re comfortable in terms of what kind of exposure that creates in the fund.
So they’re always making this judgment, will I produce enough cash to, to manage those liabilities? What happened over the last year and a half or so is rates went up and valuations went down. What’s been keeping you entertained either video or audio, Netflix or, or podcasts?
Some people look at a casino as entertainment and hey, we’re gonna spend X dollars, pick a number, 500, 2000, whatever it is. And the third, the one that nobody talks about is riskmanagement. Riskmanagement. Then the volatility and, and the valuation makes an enormous difference.
It’s just a fascinating conversation about looking at the world from both bottoms up and top-down, as well as thinking about what valuations are like, how likely are macro events, the impact you’re getting not just the return on capital, but as famously said in fixed income, a return of your capital. RITHOLTZ: Really quite fascinating.
Because if you’re a riskmanager at a bank and all of a sudden the reserve flow is not coming your direction anymore, you’re the expectation that is, it will go the opposite direction. And if they don’t, we’re happy to own them at the valuation that we are creating that company act.
I found the book to be really entertaining and, and amusing and a little bit horrifying. It really is just a, a, a very entertaining book and I thought this conversation was, was absolutely fascinating. So like no more venture capital, you know, 32 billion valuation. Lots of other things fell apart, including FTX.
And we’ve automated the, the appraisal process for valuation, both intrinsic value, meaning like, where would we pay it, where would we buy it, and where is the fair market price that asset from that level, from price and from consumer behavior now. We ask all of our guests starting with what have you been entertained with these days?
But I think the reality is right now, we just have an overhang from, I certainly in my world, I can speak to healthcare and FinTech, a number of companies going public and then disappointing or valuation just being excessive compared to the maturity of the businesses. What’s keeping you entertained?
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