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Transcript: Greg Davis, CIO Vanguard

Barry Ritholtz

So I was a mile deep on a subject matter of bond indexing, but now I had the opportunity to lead an equity indexing group, the entire fixed income team, our investment strategy team that does research for our clients around portfolio construction, those types of things. They create the benchmark. DAVIS: Yes, exactly.

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Transcript: Ted Seides

Barry Ritholtz

SEIDES: If the S&P is your benchmark, which it isn’t for these pools of capital. RITHOLTZ: What should be their benchmark? So the proper benchmark for those pools has to look a little bit like the underlying assets they’re investing in. So what do you use for a benchmark? 14, 15% a year? RITHOLTZ: Right.

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Transcript: Graeme Forster, Orbis Investments

Barry Ritholtz

And they also have a unique approach to feeds when they’re generating alpha, when they’re outperforming their benchmark, they take a performance fee. So, you know, our sister company in South Africa, Africa have done 8% above the benchmark. Then the volatility and, and the valuation makes an enormous difference.

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Transcript: Rick Rieder

Barry Ritholtz

And because remember, Lehman had the Lehman Agg and that was the benchmark. There is above benchmark returns to be generated by active selection of credit quality duration and specific bonds. Now, we’re shifting to more international places like China, Europe, et cetera, that are really growing, and that valuations are cheaper.

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Transcript: Kenneth Tropin

Barry Ritholtz

RITHOLTZ: And those were Treasuries. RITHOLTZ: And last question about the various teams, does everybody have a different benchmark? And so that’s a really fertile, constructive environment for us to try and generate returns. And last market question, so we’ve seen equity valuations come down. TROPIN: Right.

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Transcript: Liz Ann Sonders, Schwab

Barry Ritholtz

00:18:13 [Speaker Changed] When markets are going up, the benchmark is either an index like the s and p 500 or you know, someone you know that’s making even more money than you are. But it’s amazing how quickly the benchmark turns into cash or a positive return when markets are going down.