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Transcript: Greg Davis, CIO Vanguard

Barry Ritholtz

So I was a mile deep on a subject matter of bond indexing, but now I had the opportunity to lead an equity indexing group, the entire fixed income team, our investment strategy team that does research for our clients around portfolio construction, those types of things. They create the benchmark. DAVIS: So on the bond side, we have both.

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Transcript: Rick Rieder

Barry Ritholtz

But there are so many tools at your disposal, and let alone how much duration you’re taking, how much interest, how much credit risk you’re taking, illiquidity, et cetera. And how do you make the decision, I’m not comfortable with this credit risk relative to the return it’s going to throw off?

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Transcript: Ted Seides

Barry Ritholtz

The challenge is unlike the S&P 500, hedge funds sit in a box that has underlying credit risk from prime brokers. So the credit markets froze. It’s much more about security selection and a relatively static portfolio construction. SEIDES: No, you’re right about the securities. That could have saved SVB.

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Transcript: Armen Panossian

Barry Ritholtz

So, 00:25:13 [Speaker Changed] So let’s talk about that before we get to private credit. First time in decades, treasuries and investment grade corporates, it’s, it’s an attractive yield at five 5.5%. The cost of constructing a home is higher today than it was three years ago. That’s an example.

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Transcript: Sean Dobson, Amherst Holdings

Barry Ritholtz

And up until that moment in time, we didn’t spend a lot of time on credit risk in mortgages. We didn’t really have to model credit risk because that was, that risk was taken by the agencies. But in these private labels, you had the, the market was taking the credit risk.

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Transcript: Robert Koenigsberger

Barry Ritholtz

So we have to think about credit risk like everybody else. But at the end of the day, emerging markets risk is about credit culture, people, how do they behave in times of duress in the past, predict how they’re going to behave in the future. Treasury, the OFAC restrictions. But that’s very helpful too.