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Avoid the Unforced Investment Errors Even Billionaires Make

Barry Ritholtz

The reporters did not suggest wrongdoing, but allow me to point out that any advisor, let alone two, who became billionaires while wildly underperforming their benchmarks are obviously not fiduciaries. These two possibilities a 10-fold increase versus a 90% drop are roughly symmetrical in terms of math (but probably not probabilities).

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Transcript: Ted Seides

Barry Ritholtz

SEIDES: If the S&P is your benchmark, which it isn’t for these pools of capital. RITHOLTZ: What should be their benchmark? So the proper benchmark for those pools has to look a little bit like the underlying assets they’re investing in. So what do you use for a benchmark? 14, 15% a year? RITHOLTZ: Right.

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Transcript: Greg Davis, CIO Vanguard

Barry Ritholtz

They create the benchmark. So when there’s a major turnover like that that happens, you always have the option, “Hey, can you do it exactly on the time that it enters the benchmark? And 87% of our active fixed income funds have outperformed their benchmarks on a three year basis against their benchmarks.

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Transcript: Dave Nadig

Barry Ritholtz

So whether you’re trying to get managed futures from an active manager or, you know, two months Treasuries, T bills, like the whole spectrum is now available in lose to 3,000 ETFs we are trading here in the U.S. NADIG: Well, I mean, there’s like TLT, with the big Treasury funds, LQD and HYG. RITHOLTZ: Beat the 10-year.

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Transcript: Graeme Forster, Orbis Investments

Barry Ritholtz

And they also have a unique approach to feeds when they’re generating alpha, when they’re outperforming their benchmark, they take a performance fee. So I, I did a math degree at Oxford, which is more pure math. It’s just math stick to it over long periods of time. The second is excess returns.

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Transcript: Joel Tillinghast, Fidelity

Barry Ritholtz

He has absolutely crushed his benchmark over that period. He’s crushed the Russell 2000, whatever benchmark you want to talk about. And I was a math nerd as a kid. He developed the Ginnie Mae contract, which at one time was a big thing in treasury bond contract. The s and p 500 has underperformed his fund by 3.7%

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Transcript: Rick Rieder

Barry Ritholtz

And because remember, Lehman had the Lehman Agg and that was the benchmark. There is above benchmark returns to be generated by active selection of credit quality duration and specific bonds. RIEDER: Why do you need the price of the Treasury market to the two-year forward or the three-year forward? There is alpha. RIEDER: Yeah.